10 Believable Fans' Theories About Marvel Movies That Fascinate You
The MCU has been going strong for more than a decade, and there are fans of all kinds thanks to the hundreds of movies and television shows Marvel has released. Over the years, MCU fans have come up with some really fascinating concepts. When those people get together online to debate their favorite features of the MCU's heroes, villains, and events, you'll get some really unique fan theories.
Every now and then, fans will post their theories on the FanTheories subreddit, where they can express their opinions and theories about the people and events that make the MCU such a fantastic series. Some fan ideas make a lot of logic, and we've put the finest of them here. Below are the 15 Reasonable fans' theories about Marvel movies that can make you fascinated.
In the comics, when Iron Man died, his consciousness became an AI while his body was dead. Iron Heart took his place. At the end of Avengers: Endgame, the hologram on Tony Stark turns to face his daughter, Morgan. He faces her exact position as if he knew she was there.
A hologram doesn't just do that. My theory is that Iron Man's consciousness was backed up into the Iron Man helmet before death, and he remains alive as an AI similar to the comics."
My logic behind how this is possible is simple:
Stark trades in durability for speed and focuses on making his suits more capable throughout the MCU.
Take Iron Man One. The Iron Man suit was a suit of armor initially and had very limited capabilities combat-wise.
Iron Man 2, we see Tony take damage easier but has lasers, missiles, machine guns, etc.
Iron Man 3 and almost most noticeably, his suits take the most damage (breaks by a van slamming into it) but now his suits can come to him, fight on their own I.E autopilot, and are made, sometimes, with specific purposes.
This method begins to pay off, as Stark begins playing with nano-tech in Civil War. Ultimately, his suits reach maximum durability through this experimentation, as the Iron Man suit is capable of withstanding concentrated energy blasts from the Power Stone in Infinity War.
I also feel Stark purposefully ditches so much armor on his suit because he knows he's better with his suits. Tony knows that with more and more use with his suits, he's becoming better at flying and dodging and fighting. This is illustrated perfectly in Civil War and Infinity War as he dodges, blocks, and is now doing complex flips and spins mid-flight."
This is my own spin on u/Arc_the_lad 's theory on Dr. Strange. I personally don't think of him as a bad guy, so here's my theory:
Right before she dies, the Ancient One talks to Doctor Strange in her astral form and she mentions that she can't see past the point of her death.
"I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further."
So even with the Time stone in her possession, the Ancient One could not see past her own death. In the MCU continuity, there is no evidence to suggest that Doctor Strange has surpassed her skills as a wizard or as a user of the Time Stone.
This clearly establishes the fact that when Strange was seeing all those possible future outcomes on Titan, he counted every possibility where he dies (not snapped, but literally dies) as a failure.
This basically means that out of all the possible outcomes, Doctor Strange survived in 14,000,605, and out of those, there was only one in which the Avengers won.
This implies that there may have been hundreds of outcomes for the final battle, in which our heroes emerge victorious without Stark's sacrifice, but Strange couldn't envision those outcomes because he had been a casualty along the way.
So, instead of Strange being a diabolical evil mastermind, maybe he wasn't able to find a possibility where the Avengers won while he was dead. This possibility was the only one where he was alive after the end of Endgame. Maybe there was a reality where he died, but Tony survived?"
"In the segment of the airport scene where Pete and Steve have their 1:1 fight, Steve drops a sky bridge on Pete, who is able to catch it.
How was Cap confident that this wouldn't kill Spidey? Surely their fight didn't reveal how strong Spidey was since they were all pulling their punches.
A better explanation is that Cap already knew about Spider-Man. After all, it's clear that Tony had been watching him for an unknown amount of time and even had a suit to give him, and this was while Tony and Steve were still allies. Tony and Steve were both evaluating Spidey for recruitment and took a catalog of his powers as he stopped crimes in Queens."
"We know that Odin used to be a ruthless conqueror. He and his daughter Hela rampaged across the universe, subjugating realm after realm. Except for one day, for reasons unknown he stopped, imprisoned his daughter, and became a benevolent ruler who only warred as a last result. My theory is that during his conquest Odin sought out the Infinity Stones himself; he sacrificed his wife for the Soul Stone, and the remorse over the act and the connection to the souls of the universe granted to him by the stone caused him to change to a protector rather than a conqueror.
Odin was collecting Infinity Stones for his conquest of the universe
Hemsworth was also at that point tired of 'serious' Thor.
So I theorize that for non-flagship (i.e not Iron Man or Cap) characters they allowed some freedom to the directors. In the case of the supposedly final Thor movie, they let a comedy director take over and change the tone of the character completely.
Might also explain why the first Dr. Strange was allowed to be so trippy and why Captain Marvel was so generic
That may mean that the more creative movies in the future will come from C or D list characters. Squirrel Girl, please."
Vain, warmonger-ish, and conquerors. Odin saw the parallels and knew what he had to do. If Thor ever got out of hand, Odin would have the perfect tool to combat Thor. Not kill him, but break him with a weapon more powerful than Mjolnir.
An ax made to break the storm."
"The OG Avengers in the MCU represents the 6 Infinity Stones:
Not so much a theory, just an observation. I haven’t seen anyone discuss this before.
Tony/Iron Man: Mind - arguably the smartest Avenger, also figured out how to use the mind stone.
Thor: Space - he comes from a different/faraway place, and travels through the Bifrost which acts similarly to the space stone.
Hulk: Power - “Hulk like raging fire”
Cap: Time - he has lived in and experienced different eras, essentially traveling through time. He rues the time he has lost, and he experienced Peggy’s life as being fast-forwarded.
Natasha/Black Widow: Reality - this one is the toughest argument to make, but I think her experience with the Red Room has made her consider what could have been (other realities). Also, her tendency to see both sides/switch sides (like in Civil War) demonstrates her ability to consider the complexity of reality.
Clint/Hawkeye: Soul - heart, and soul of the team, often has to sacrifice loved ones (figuratively, by leaving his family) to do what he believes in.
EDIT: Of course, this isn’t a perfect 1 to 1, and you could switch a lot of them around depending on different aspects of the characters. This was just for fun, and I’ve enjoyed reading other people’s interpretations. Keep in mind that these were shower thoughts, not a thesis lol."
"It makes sense that Tony Stark would be the only one with PTSD after the battle in New York in Avengers
Maybe someone's already thought of this but it makes sense that Tony would be the only one who struggled with PTSD after the battle in New York in Avengers. Compared to all his Avenger colleagues, he's the only one who has never been in a full-scale war or large assault like the one in New York.
Not only that but even though he's had small battles before then there's nothing in the scale of that size and he has had no formal training prior to becoming Iron Man that we know of. Everyone else has seen a battle like that before and that's why no one else has any problems after New York."
"The reason Captain America is able to wield Mjolnir now is that he is worthy. This seems like a duh but it's not so simple.
In Age of Ultron, we see that he is able to move the hammer because for a moment the hammer senses all the good that Cap is but then it notices his one fault...
Later in the movie, Scarlett Witch gives all of the Avengers nightmares and they see their worst fears realized. Cap's worst fear is that there will be no more fight. No more war.
THIS is the exact reason Odin took Mjolnir from Thor and placed the spell on it. "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he is worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." Remember that Thor had a strong desire for combat regardless of the consequences. He was unable to see how to resolve conflicts without violence. This seemingly makes someone unworthy."
Every now and then, fans will post their theories on the FanTheories subreddit, where they can express their opinions and theories about the people and events that make the MCU such a fantastic series. Some fan ideas make a lot of logic, and we've put the finest of them here. Below are the 15 Reasonable fans' theories about Marvel movies that can make you fascinated.
1. Tony Stark Restored His Consciousness Before Passing Away
Source: Marvel Studio
In the comics, when Iron Man died, his consciousness became an AI while his body was dead. Iron Heart took his place. At the end of Avengers: Endgame, the hologram on Tony Stark turns to face his daughter, Morgan. He faces her exact position as if he knew she was there.
A hologram doesn't just do that. My theory is that Iron Man's consciousness was backed up into the Iron Man helmet before death, and he remains alive as an AI similar to the comics."
2. The Reasons Why Tony's Suits Break Down Easier Is That He Exchanges Durability For Speed And New Features
Source: Marvel Studio
My logic behind how this is possible is simple:
Stark trades in durability for speed and focuses on making his suits more capable throughout the MCU.
Take Iron Man One. The Iron Man suit was a suit of armor initially and had very limited capabilities combat-wise.
Iron Man 2, we see Tony take damage easier but has lasers, missiles, machine guns, etc.
Iron Man 3 and almost most noticeably, his suits take the most damage (breaks by a van slamming into it) but now his suits can come to him, fight on their own I.E autopilot, and are made, sometimes, with specific purposes.
This method begins to pay off, as Stark begins playing with nano-tech in Civil War. Ultimately, his suits reach maximum durability through this experimentation, as the Iron Man suit is capable of withstanding concentrated energy blasts from the Power Stone in Infinity War.
I also feel Stark purposefully ditches so much armor on his suit because he knows he's better with his suits. Tony knows that with more and more use with his suits, he's becoming better at flying and dodging and fighting. This is illustrated perfectly in Civil War and Infinity War as he dodges, blocks, and is now doing complex flips and spins mid-flight."
3. In Endgame Iron Man Didn't Have To Die
Source: Marvel Studio
This is my own spin on u/Arc_the_lad 's theory on Dr. Strange. I personally don't think of him as a bad guy, so here's my theory:
Right before she dies, the Ancient One talks to Doctor Strange in her astral form and she mentions that she can't see past the point of her death.
"I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it. I've prevented countless terrible futures and after each one there's always another, and they all lead here but never further."
So even with the Time stone in her possession, the Ancient One could not see past her own death. In the MCU continuity, there is no evidence to suggest that Doctor Strange has surpassed her skills as a wizard or as a user of the Time Stone.
This clearly establishes the fact that when Strange was seeing all those possible future outcomes on Titan, he counted every possibility where he dies (not snapped, but literally dies) as a failure.
This basically means that out of all the possible outcomes, Doctor Strange survived in 14,000,605, and out of those, there was only one in which the Avengers won.
This implies that there may have been hundreds of outcomes for the final battle, in which our heroes emerge victorious without Stark's sacrifice, but Strange couldn't envision those outcomes because he had been a casualty along the way.
So, instead of Strange being a diabolical evil mastermind, maybe he wasn't able to find a possibility where the Avengers won while he was dead. This possibility was the only one where he was alive after the end of Endgame. Maybe there was a reality where he died, but Tony survived?"
4. In Civil War FIght, Cap Knew Who Spider-Man Was
Source: Marvel Studio
"In the segment of the airport scene where Pete and Steve have their 1:1 fight, Steve drops a sky bridge on Pete, who is able to catch it.
How was Cap confident that this wouldn't kill Spidey? Surely their fight didn't reveal how strong Spidey was since they were all pulling their punches.
A better explanation is that Cap already knew about Spider-Man. After all, it's clear that Tony had been watching him for an unknown amount of time and even had a suit to give him, and this was while Tony and Steve were still allies. Tony and Steve were both evaluating Spidey for recruitment and took a catalog of his powers as he stopped crimes in Queens."
5. Odin Once Attempted To Collect The Infinity Stones
Source: Marvel Studio
"We know that Odin used to be a ruthless conqueror. He and his daughter Hela rampaged across the universe, subjugating realm after realm. Except for one day, for reasons unknown he stopped, imprisoned his daughter, and became a benevolent ruler who only warred as a last result. My theory is that during his conquest Odin sought out the Infinity Stones himself; he sacrificed his wife for the Soul Stone, and the remorse over the act and the connection to the souls of the universe granted to him by the stone caused him to change to a protector rather than a conqueror.
Odin was collecting Infinity Stones for his conquest of the universe
- There is a clear motivation for Warlord Odin to want to stone. In the past, he wanted to conquer the realms. Becoming the most powerful being in the universe by possessing the Infinity Stones and the Odinforce would make that task trivial for him.
- There is a fake/replica of the infinity gauntlet in the vault of Asgard, and the dwarves of Nidavellir have plans to make such a gauntlet. Odin clearly knows what the gauntlet is, and what it does, and had the capability to make one for himself.
- Hela identifies the gauntlet in the Vault of Asgard as a fake, implying she knows what a real gauntlet looks like. This is likely because she remembers Odin wielding one
- The Space Stone (as the Tesseract) was hidden in a nordic village on earth long ago. The words worship Odin because the Asgardian pantheon visited earth in the past, so it is strongly implied that the Asgardians themselves hid the stone on earth. Therefore we have direct evidence that Odin possessed the Space Stone at one point.
- Bor, Odin's father, captured and hid the Reality Stone. The Reality Stone is effectively in possession of Odin already because of this."
6. "Ragnarok" Was Unbelievable Because Marvel Gave Up On Thor
Source: Marvel Studio
Hemsworth was also at that point tired of 'serious' Thor.
So I theorize that for non-flagship (i.e not Iron Man or Cap) characters they allowed some freedom to the directors. In the case of the supposedly final Thor movie, they let a comedy director take over and change the tone of the character completely.
Might also explain why the first Dr. Strange was allowed to be so trippy and why Captain Marvel was so generic
That may mean that the more creative movies in the future will come from C or D list characters. Squirrel Girl, please."
7. Odin Made The Mold For Stormbreaker Because He Thought Thor Would Need That Soon
Source: Marvel Studio
Vain, warmonger-ish, and conquerors. Odin saw the parallels and knew what he had to do. If Thor ever got out of hand, Odin would have the perfect tool to combat Thor. Not kill him, but break him with a weapon more powerful than Mjolnir.
An ax made to break the storm."
8. The Original Six Members Of The Avengers Depict The Infinity Stones
Source: Marvel Studio
"The OG Avengers in the MCU represents the 6 Infinity Stones:
Not so much a theory, just an observation. I haven’t seen anyone discuss this before.
Tony/Iron Man: Mind - arguably the smartest Avenger, also figured out how to use the mind stone.
Thor: Space - he comes from a different/faraway place, and travels through the Bifrost which acts similarly to the space stone.
Hulk: Power - “Hulk like raging fire”
Cap: Time - he has lived in and experienced different eras, essentially traveling through time. He rues the time he has lost, and he experienced Peggy’s life as being fast-forwarded.
Natasha/Black Widow: Reality - this one is the toughest argument to make, but I think her experience with the Red Room has made her consider what could have been (other realities). Also, her tendency to see both sides/switch sides (like in Civil War) demonstrates her ability to consider the complexity of reality.
Clint/Hawkeye: Soul - heart, and soul of the team, often has to sacrifice loved ones (figuratively, by leaving his family) to do what he believes in.
EDIT: Of course, this isn’t a perfect 1 to 1, and you could switch a lot of them around depending on different aspects of the characters. This was just for fun, and I’ve enjoyed reading other people’s interpretations. Keep in mind that these were shower thoughts, not a thesis lol."
9. Only Tony Bear PTSD After The Battle Of New York Because He's "A Newbie"
Source: Marvel Studio
"It makes sense that Tony Stark would be the only one with PTSD after the battle in New York in Avengers
Maybe someone's already thought of this but it makes sense that Tony would be the only one who struggled with PTSD after the battle in New York in Avengers. Compared to all his Avenger colleagues, he's the only one who has never been in a full-scale war or large assault like the one in New York.
Not only that but even though he's had small battles before then there's nothing in the scale of that size and he has had no formal training prior to becoming Iron Man that we know of. Everyone else has seen a battle like that before and that's why no one else has any problems after New York."
10. Cap Wasn't Worthy To Lift Mjolnir Till "Endgame"
Source: Marvel Studio
"The reason Captain America is able to wield Mjolnir now is that he is worthy. This seems like a duh but it's not so simple.
In Age of Ultron, we see that he is able to move the hammer because for a moment the hammer senses all the good that Cap is but then it notices his one fault...
Later in the movie, Scarlett Witch gives all of the Avengers nightmares and they see their worst fears realized. Cap's worst fear is that there will be no more fight. No more war.
THIS is the exact reason Odin took Mjolnir from Thor and placed the spell on it. "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he is worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." Remember that Thor had a strong desire for combat regardless of the consequences. He was unable to see how to resolve conflicts without violence. This seemingly makes someone unworthy."
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